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	<title>Comments on: Sociopaths, Clueless and Losers</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Singleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Venkat himself covered this in a later post, and I&#039;ve been thinking about this a lot, particularly in respect to the The Wire.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think it somewhat depends on your definition of &quot;stupid/clever&quot;.  I think I was thinking of it in terms of &quot;self-aware/self-deceiving&quot; or &quot;knows-how-to-play-the-game/doesn&#039;t-know&quot;.  The power talk that Venkat mentions in a later post, seems to be a key factor.  The &quot;clever/stupid&quot; axis could be &quot;knows-power-talk/doesn&#039;t-know-power-talk&quot;, in which case the Clueless are definitely &quot;stupid&quot; as are Losers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think everyone agrees that Losers are stupid-lazy, and that Clueless are hardworking.  I just don&#039;t see any way to label Clueless as clever.  They only get promoted from the ranks of the Losers based on their willingness to work hard even as a Loser.  In some ways this makes them even stupider than the Losers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Venkat himself covered this in a later post, and I&#8217;ve been thinking about this a lot, particularly in respect to the The Wire.</p>

<p>I think it somewhat depends on your definition of &#8220;stupid/clever&#8221;.  I think I was thinking of it in terms of &#8220;self-aware/self-deceiving&#8221; or &#8220;knows-how-to-play-the-game/doesn&#8217;t-know&#8221;.  The power talk that Venkat mentions in a later post, seems to be a key factor.  The &#8220;clever/stupid&#8221; axis could be &#8220;knows-power-talk/doesn&#8217;t-know-power-talk&#8221;, in which case the Clueless are definitely &#8220;stupid&#8221; as are Losers.</p>

<p>I think everyone agrees that Losers are stupid-lazy, and that Clueless are hardworking.  I just don&#8217;t see any way to label Clueless as clever.  They only get promoted from the ranks of the Losers based on their willingness to work hard even as a Loser.  In some ways this makes them even stupider than the Losers.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ACS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ok, but you got your matrix all mixed up&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;stupid-hardworking = No Gervais label (&quot;a menace and must be removed immediately&quot;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;stupid-lazy = Loser&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;clever-hardworking = Clueless&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;clever-lazy = Sociopath&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your new label Loser Sociopath doesn&#039;t fit in the matrix at all, if you want it compatible with Venkat&#039;s Gervais Principle theory.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, but you got your matrix all mixed up</p>

<p>stupid-hardworking = No Gervais label (&#8220;a menace and must be removed immediately&#8221;)</p>

<p>stupid-lazy = Loser</p>

<p>clever-hardworking = Clueless</p>

<p>clever-lazy = Sociopath</p>

<p>Your new label Loser Sociopath doesn&#8217;t fit in the matrix at all, if you want it compatible with Venkat&#8217;s Gervais Principle theory.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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